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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 94 11:30:31 PDT
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Info-Hams Digest            Fri, 16 Sep 94       Volume 94 : Issue 1030

Today's Topics:
                       * SpaceNews 19-Sep-94 *
                       10 ghz gunplexer xcvrs..
                       2m handhelds ?? (2 msgs)
        Boatanchors list - anybody know what the status is???
                      Embedding e-mail addresses
                  MOTOROLA WORLD-WIDE SPECIAL EVENT
                          ORBS$259.2L.AMSAT
      You dont do this on the air why do it on the net? (2 msgs)
           ZAPPING dead Nicad Packs with my quick charger??

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Date: 16 Sep 94 16:57:32 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: * SpaceNews 19-Sep-94 *
To: [e-mail]

SB NEWS @ AMSAT $SPC0919
* SpaceNews 19-Sep-94 *


BID: $SPC0919


                               =========
                               SpaceNews
                               =========


                        MONDAY SEPTEMBER 19, 1994


SpaceNews originates at KD2BD in Wall Township, New Jersey, USA.  It is
published every week and is made available for unlimited distribution.


* SAREX SCHOOL CONTACT *
========================
Sal, N9NJF had the pleasure of making a scheduled SAREX contact with Dick,
KB5SIW during mission STS-64 on 11-Sep-94 at 23:48 to 23:56 UTC from the
Crystal Lake South Elementary School, Crystal Lake, Illinois.

Ed Picha, N9EP reports that the contact went well and solid signals were
aquired about 20 seconds after computer-predicted AOS.  Six children were
chosen to ask questions, and each got to ask 2 questions.

The ground station equipment used to make the contact included a Yaesu
FT-736R with Mirage 150 W amp into a KLM-14CX antenna with Landwher preamp
mounted on the antenna.  A backup configuration consisted of a Motorola
SPECTRA, 110 W out to a 5/8 wave vertical antenna at 30 feet.

The antenna was computer controlled with INSTANT TRACK and KC TRACKER.
Doppler compensation was accomplished by programming a number of memories
in the FT-736 with the appropriate doppler corrected transmit and receive
frequencies and switching these memories each minute of the pass.  Ed is
currently working on some software to perform doppler compensation
"automagically" for the FT-736 transceiver, and expects to have it
completed shortly.

Ed found that LHCP was superior to RHCP for most of the pass.  Some times
the difference in received signal strength was as much as 4 S units, even
though the antenna in the Shuttle is linearly polarized.

Ed also reports the SAREX contact was a great experience and it was truly
rewarding to see the school kids bouncing off the walls when the contact
was over.  They were REALLY excited!

[Info via Ed Picha, N9EP]


* AMSAT-OSCAR-16 NEWS *
=======================
At 0300 UTC on 12-Sep-94, the AO-16 Command Team began to reload the
of the Ramdisk and File Server software on AMSAT-OSCAR-16 after running
without a reload for over 700 days.  This "Preventive Maintenance" is
warranted by the accumulation of uncorrectable SEU's (Single Event Upsets)
in the file control structures stored on the ram disk.  During the past
year, four uncorrectable SEU's have been recorded in the directory, root
directory and FAT (File Allocation Table) entries of the error logs.  In
the past, a crash of the file server software was attributed to these types
of errors.  Reloading and running the ram disk software reformats the ram
disk thereby cleaning out all the bad SEU's.

Fortunately these uncorrectable errors have not occurred in the EDAC memory
where the actual spacecraft operational software is run.  This allows the
command team to unload and reload a task or tasks with the shortest amount
of file server downtime.  The digipeater will be off during this reload and
all stations are requested not to uplink to the satellite during this time.
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

[Info via Russ Platt, WJ9F, of the AO-16 Command Team]


* LUSAT-OSCAR-19 NEWS *
=======================
After a three month period, the file server on the LUSAT-OSCAR-19 satellite
is back in operation.  The file server had been out of service since the
spacecraft's on-board computer crashed last May for unknown reasons while
it was over the South Atlantic Anomaly.

An LUSAT command station completed the OBC software reload on Sunday
11-Sep-94 and brought the file server back on line.

[Info via Gustavo, LW2DTZ of AMSAT LU]


* FUJI-OSCAR-20 NEWS *
======================
The FO-20 command team mentioned that digital mode operation of the bird
will be continued for a while because mode switching between digital mode
and analog mode may cause a problem with the onboard command system.

[Info via Kazu Sakamoto, JJ1WTK [e-mail]]


* ITAMSAT-OSCAR-26 NEWS *
=========================
After 40 days of idle time, the ITAMSAT spacecraft was switched on by
ground command and a full spacecraft checkout was performed by the control
team.  IO-26 was found to be in excellent shape with the battery fully
charged and all critical parameters in a nominal state.  Several pieces
of test software were loaded and executed without any problem.

The reason for the delay in bringing IO-26 back on the air was due to the
heavy workload of the control team.  Alberto, I2KBD spent some time in
Chile helping the CESAR team, and lightning destroyed the main command
station.

The reload of the IHT code with improved capabilities is scheduled by
the end of September to celebrate IO-26's first year in orbit.  Until that
occurs, expect a few more weeks of idle time.

[Info via Alberto, I2KBD, ITAMSAT Mission Director]


* MIR EVA COVERAGE *
====================
John, G7MIZ, in England reports watching live pictures of the latest
extravehicular activity outside the Russian space station Mir on the
morning of 13-Sep-94 at 0630 UTC on the COSMOS 2054 satellite, 10,820 MHz,
loacted at 15 degrees west longitude.  Other noted frequencies were
10,925 MHz, and 11,385 MHz.  Peak signal times were 0600 and 1800 UTC.

[Info via John, G7MIZ @ GB7OAR.GBR.EU]


* THANKS! *
===========
Thanks to all those who sent messages of appreciation to SpaceNews,
especially:

   IK1SLD    XE1RK    KC2EQ    N2AAM    N2CBO    N2JOC    N4WAK    AB5IQ
   K8EF      LU8DYF   KF9WW    N9EF     John Darden       Dan Carlisle

...and those I got to speak to on the "Spectrum" radio show last week.
The producers reported the telephones never stopped ringing during the
broadcast!


* FEEDBACK/INPUT WELCOMED *
===========================
Mail to SpaceNews should be directed to the editor (John, KD2BD) via any
of the following paths:

FAX       : [phone]
PACKET    : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA
INTERNET  : [e-mail] -or- [e-mail]
SATELLITE : AMSAT-OSCAR-16, LUSAT-OSCAR-19

MAIL      : John A. Magliacane, KD2BD
            Department of Engineering and Technology
            Advanced Technology Center
            Brookdale Community College
            Lincroft, New Jersey  07738
            U.S.A.


       <<=- SpaceNews: The first amateur newsletter read in space! -=>>

/EX

--
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Advanced Technology Center  |/\/\/\| Packet  : KD2BD @ N2KZH.NJ.USA.NA
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 10:27:35 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!netmbx.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!zib-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-ulm.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de![e-mail]
Subject: 10 ghz gunplexer xcvrs..
To: [e-mail]

Hello,

Well about 10 years ago I had built a trx with a solfan head, and had a few QSO'swith them. So if I dig properly in my docs I might still find some stuff. As
far as I remember, it was all straight foreward, the only catch had been
that the regulated suply to the gunn diode tended to ocillate, it took a
small seris resistor to fix that, main problem was to find out what was giong
on in the first place.
One disadvantage of the solfan head was that it does not easily tune tu the QRG
used by others. So, although they comunicate with each other fine, they will
not with other OM's.
Why have I given up on 10GHz WBFM? Because there is noone QRV anymore!
All trafic has moved to ssb with an incredible gain in distance, and since
transverter kits are around for about 200$, there is no need for WBFM anymore.
(Same as AM on HF?)

However, if you want more info just for playing around, send me a mail.

73, Moritz DL5UH

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Date: 15 Sep 94 18:02:14 GMT
From: news.delphi.com!BIX.com![e-mail]
Subject: 2m handhelds ??
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Michael A. Atkinson) writes:

>I'm now studying for my Technician Plus.  A friend and local ham has
>convinced me that a good first rig for me would be a dual band (2m/70cm)
>handheld.

>What do y'all recommend?  Is there a FAQ on this, or a list?

Right now, the Kenwood TH-79A has my vote as the most intriguing choice.
Size, cosmetics, etc., are wonderful.   The alpha display would be
just terrific for me:  I never what repeater a given freq I've programmed
into my HT corresponds to and the alpha display would fix that.  The
only downsides to the 79A are (a) price, i.e., it is a premium unit
and a bit (but depending on your viewpoint, maybe not a lot) more
than other dual banders and (b) a number of folks have noticed that
the memory lockout function (to let you scan the freqs you've programmed
but skip certain freqs) didn't make it into the current product even
though apparently it was planned (it's scratched out by hand in all
the Kenwood sales literature).  There's some talk that lockout function
may be added soon, begging the question whether you should buy now
and hope they'll update you free or just wait for the new release (without
of course any assurance there will be one).

Regards,
Doug Hamilton  KD1UJ  [e-mail]  Ph 508-358-5715  FAX [phone]
Hamilton Laboratories, 13 Old Farm Road, Wayland, MA  01778-3117, USA

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Date: 16 Sep 94 16:27:39 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 2m handhelds ??
To: [e-mail]

>Technician Plus.
>What do y'all recommend?

> Icom IC-T21A, Icom IC-2GXAT, or the Kenwood TH-22AT ?

Cetainly don't overlook the Yeasu single and dual band HT's.  Yeasu
offers alot of radio for usually less money than Icom or Kenwood.
Try before you buy.... check the "user interface" commands on some
radios to decide which one is the most logical to use.  You don't want
an HT that requires you carry an instruction manual.  IMHO the newest
HT's have gone overboard on useless gimicks and "features".

Everything else being the same, you might also consider a single band HT
to simply "get your feet wet" before you spend a bunch of money and
decide ham radio is not for you.   It's easy to trade radios without
losing much of your investment.   Attend some local radio club meetings
and ask the folks what radios they're using.  (then if you have questions
you can get direct help)

One more thing... if you buy a used HT, expect the nicads to have
"memory failure" and therefore need replacing, adding to your cost.
=Mark=
[e-mail]

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Date: 11 Sep 1994 21:50:30 -0400
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!meaddata!babbage.ece.uc.edu!ucunix.san.uc.edu!ucunix.san.uc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Boatanchors list - anybody know what the status is???
To: [e-mail]

My understanding is the Paul Prescott, the list owner, has been ill and
is unable to make additions or deletions to the list right now (or not
able to easily, at least).  Those of us on the list have been getting
stuff regularly, so it's still active.

Best wishes to Paul for a speedy recovery.

Ted WB8VNV

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Date: 16 Sep 94 11:25:22 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Embedding e-mail addresses
To: [e-mail]

>  ([e-mail] wrote . . .)
>
>>the network with bad software and working around it by putting your
>>real address into the body of the message, GET YOUR SOFTWARE FIXED.
>> - Brian

>  Amen!  100 percent agreement.  News software has been around for quite
>some time.  There is no excuse for not having it working by now.
>
> Alan

I am the original poster of the request that we develop the habit of
embedding our e-mail address into postings.  You are correct that a
newsreader should handle the address.  Mine does, that's why I
can reply to your endorsement of Brian's little rant.

BUT ...

Postings to rec.radio.* don't only get distributed to you and I and
others who read newsgroups.  There are automated services which
collect and compile them each day, and distribute them to mailing lists
as "digests".  Most importantly, the "Info-Hams" digest.
These services usually do not preserve the source addresses correctly.
Maybe they "should", but that is not in the control of those who
post, or those who read.

Then, these digests get archived at several ftp sites worldwide, and
their presence is announced on other mailing lists.  So your postings
get read by others days or weeks from now.

Finally, these archives are sucked up by shareware vendors and
distributed on CD roms.  So you and I are published on CD ROM !!
(Pity we have to remain anonymous.)  I have a CD rom at home on which
I have discovered -- to my chagrin -- some of my less well thought out
postings of months and years gone by.

Considering the level of thought many posters put into their comments,
perhaps anonymity is a blessing.   But if you have something to say
and you want all to know who posted it, or if you want a response
from as wide a community as possible, you must consider
that the real audience is much larger than those who will see your
posting today using a newsreader.

/***
Gary W. Thorburn   [e-mail]  KD1TE
***/

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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 16:04:39 GMT
From: conch!gruntwork.sps.mot.com!oakhill!hawk![e-mail]
Subject: MOTOROLA WORLD-WIDE SPECIAL EVENT
To: [e-mail]

Motorola radio amateurs around the world will be celebrating the 66th birthday
of Motorola in September by operating special event stations.

States and countries participating:  Arizona, Illinois, Texas, Florida, Canada,
Singapore, Indonesia, France, Italy, Israel, and Hong Kong.

Date/Time Period:  25 September 1994 / 0000-2400Z.  Most stations will be
operating during THEIR daylight hours (0800-1600 local).  Operations will be in
the General Class portion of the amateur radio bands.

QSL:  All QSL's should be directed to the callbook address of AA7WD.  Send a 9"
x 12" SASE with sufficient return postage ($0.52 domestic, 2 or 3 IRC's DX).

Look For:

    KI5X        AUSTIN, TX
    AA7WD        TEMPE, AZ
    9V1ZI        SINGAPORE
    IY2M/I2IMI    MILAN
    W0MME        MOUNT PLEASANT, IA
    VA3MOT        CANADA
    WA4LZR        FT LAUDERDALE, FL
    F3UZ        JACQUES
    F5QT        JEAN PAUL
    F5NKJ        FREDERIC
    F5FML        JOHN

OTHERS WILL FOLLOW!

SEE YOU ON THE AIR
    F6BOH        ALAIN


regards

George Hawkins
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Date: 16 Sep 94 04:25:00 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: ORBS$259.2L.AMSAT
To: [e-mail]

SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-259.N
2Line Orbital Elements 259.AMSAT

HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR AMATEUR SATELLITES IN NASA FORMAT
FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX September 16, 1994
BID: $ORBS-259.N

DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY:
1 AAAAAU 00  0  0 BBBBB.BBBBBBBB  .CCCCCCCC  00000-0  00000-0 0  DDDZ
2 AAAAA EEE.EEEE FFF.FFFF GGGGGGG HHH.HHHH III.IIII JJ.JJJJJJJJKKKKKZ
KEY: A-CATALOGNUM B-EPOCHTIME C-DECAY D-ELSETNUM E-INCLINATION F-RAAN
G-ECCENTRICITY H-ARGPERIGEE I-MNANOM J-MNMOTION K-ORBITNUM Z-CHECKSUM

TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

AO-10
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UO-11
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RS-10/11
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AO-13
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FO-20
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AO-21
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RS-12/13
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ARSENE
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UO-14
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AO-16
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DO-17
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WO-18
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LO-19
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UO-22
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KO-23
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AO-27
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2 22825  98.6474 331.6469 0008523 316.8301  43.2207 14.27634167 50320
IO-26
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KO-25
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22828
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NOAA-9
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NOAA-10
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MET-2/17
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MET-3/2
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NOAA-11
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MET-2/18
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MET-3/3
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MET-2/19
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FY-1/2
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MET-3/4
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NOAA-12
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MET-3/5
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MET-2/21
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POSAT
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MIR
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HUBBLE
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GRO
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UARS
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2 21701  56.9863 158.2439 0004476  99.4932 260.6616 14.96419398164416
/EX

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Date: 15 Sep 1994 19:23:13 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!newshub.sdsu.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!news.lvld.hp.com![e-mail]
Subject: You dont do this on the air why do it on the net?
To: [e-mail]

Brian Kantor ([e-mail]) wrote:
: If your news or mail system isn't putting your proper address into the
: headers, it doesn't belong on the net.  Instead of continuing to pollute
: the network with bad software and working around it by putting your
: real address into the body of the message, GET YOUR SOFTWARE FIXED.
:     - Brian

Acch!  Ptui!

I now digress into a story.

For years I only had access to a, well, less than perfect newsreader.
Among its many other faults, it saw xposted articles as multipostings.
As the net began to grow and groups began to fragment and grow
hierarchies, indiscriminate xposting began to drive me crazy.  On
several groups where I was active I began to campaign to limit overly
subdividing groups because of the xposting issue.  I got a lot of the
responses like Brian's.  "Fix your software you ignorant fool!  Get your
braindamaged newsreader off the net!"

Fine.  The only problem is that, like a lot of folks on the net I had
little control over my access and the software that was available.  Many
of us were, in fact, doing everything we could to convince the powers
that be to improve our situation but it ultimately took years to effect
change.  And even today with a better newsreader I still think
over-subdividing and the resultant excessive xposting is a "bad thing".
Email from other readers showed that many other users were in similar
situations.

Now someone else asks the group a simple favor.  A gateway somewhere strips
valid email addresses or passes strange ones.  Replys are not automated.
Please add your valid email address to your signature.

Such a little thing.  Such a reasonable request.  So easy to do.  Why
not just do it?

If you want to be constructive and suggest changes fine.  If you even
want to vent a little and complain about the proliferation of poor
software out there as the net expands and links all over the place,
again fine.  But good grief, be a bit more tolerant of the *people*
who have to live with some of the software problems and are asking for
simple favors to help them work around them.

Scott - who's *always* added his valid email address in his sig because
mailer problems have been around as long as the net has.  It used to be
a lot worse folks!


Scott Turner  KG0MR  [e-mail]

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Date: 15 Sep 1994 19:35:18 GMT
From: yuma!csn!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!news.lvld.hp.com![e-mail]
Subject: You dont do this on the air why do it on the net?
To: [e-mail]

Kein{nen Paul ([e-mail]) wrote:


: Get yourself a copy of "Hams on Usenet" list, which include most active
: participants of the rec.radio.amateur.* hierarchy. I see no point of
: including your .sig in every post in a heated debate, it is just a waste
: of bandwidth.

With all due respect to the fine job the gentlefolk maintaining the list
do it is hardly the solution to this problem.  A valid address in a sig
takes up a few *bytes* of space.  Absolute noise compared to the rest of the
traffic.  Hardly a bandwidth issue.

BTW, look up my call in the latest "Hams on Usenet" list and you'll see
one of the problems.  I have no idea who the gentleman is whose name is
attached to my call.  I have been told that the scripts that generate
the list are fairly complex, and hardly infallable.  The list is a
terrific service and my hat's off to the folks that maintain it, but it
is not the answer to providing valid mail addresses on a day-to-day
basis.


Scott Turner  KG0MR  [e-mail]

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Date: 15 Sep 94 17:14:15 GMT
From: news.delphi.com!BIX.com![e-mail]
Subject: ZAPPING dead Nicad Packs with my quick charger??
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Joe Tomasone) writes:

> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (andrew peter.cropley) says:
> >
> >QUESTION. Can I "ZAP" my pack by leaving on 24 volts for a while??


> I would not leave it on for a while.  What I would do is give it a shot
> from a 12V, 20-30 amp power supply for ONE SECOND.  That hopefully will
> bring the cells back in line and they will accept a charge again, albiet
> fractionally less than they would originally.  Of course, if it has been
> discharged for so long, you may have no choice but to chuck the battery
> or replace the cells.

Wow!  It works!  I have a BP-84 that's been dying on me.  It had gotten to
the point (with little warning, matter of fact) where it just would NOT take
a charge.  I had nearly resigned myself to chucking it and buying a new
one (at the usual, totally exhorbitant price).  But I just zapped it for a
couple seconds (the meter on my Astron surged to about 5A) and bingo!  I
have a working battery, it seems.  (I'll know more after a couple cycles,
obviously, but so far, so good.)

Thank you!!

Regards,
Doug Hamilton  KD1UJ  [e-mail]  Ph 508-358-5715  FAX [phone]
Hamilton Laboratories, 13 Old Farm Road, Wayland, MA  01778-3117, USA

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